Boeing Studies New Turboprop In Partnership With Embraer

Embraer is researching ways to launch a new turboprop aircraft. The plane would be developed through a venture planned with Boeing, which the manufacturer is already closely aligned with.

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Embraer is studying how to implement a new turboprop aircraft into the market With United States-based manufacturer Boeing.. Photo: ATR

A natural addition

Embraer Commercial Aviation’s Chief Executive John Slattery spoke with Reuters about how this plan is in line with his company’s vision.

“It sits in our target market, which we have always been clear is below 150 seats, and will have natural adjacency to the E2 offering,” Slattery told Reuters.

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Additionally, Embraer is in talks with General Electric, Rolls-Royce and Pratt & Whitney Canada. The company is in discussions with them regarding an engine planned turboprop.

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Currently, the ATR-72 dominates the turboprop market. The plane can seat 72–78 passengers and over 1,000 of them have been built since 1988. ATR’s dominance could be impacted if Boeing and Embraer enter with a new direct rival.

A useful piece of equipment

Turboprops are helpful for airlines to reach people in isolated regions. Furthermore, they are better at reaching certain areas with sensitive terrains than several jets.

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Bangkok Airways, HS-PZB, ATR 72-600
Turboprops are often deployed on services between smaller islands. They are also popular for serving passengers in remote communes. Photo: Anna Zvereva via Wikimedia Commons

Slattery affirms that Embraer would not go ahead with the venture by itself due to the billions of dollars that would be needed to fund it.

“The amount of balance sheet required for a new state-of-the-art commercial aircraft is of an order of magnitude that we simply don’t have the appetite for, outside of the joint-venture environment,” he said, as per the report.

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Embraer is a specialist in short- and medium-range twin-engine jetliners. Photo: Embraer

Ambitious plans on the cards

Boeing is looking to take majority control of Embraer’s E-Jets. However, this venture has been placed on hold while the European Commission concludes its investigations.

Boeing is planning to gain 80 percent of Embraer’s commercial stock while the Brazilian company independently maintains its military operations. Although the EU has concerns over competition as both businesses produce similar-sized aircraft.

Nonetheless, if the two manufacturers go ahead with the plans for a new turboprop, then they will be adding more smaller units to their fleet. These two firms are not the only planemakers appreciating the value of the turboprop. Ilyushin is preparing for the maiden flight of its new Il-114-300 this year.

There could be a renaissance for turboprop aircraft over the next few years. There has been speculation that the type could assist in the fight against climate change. The implementation of the planes on shorter routes could offer greater fuel efficiency than jet airliners.

Simple Flying reached out to Embraer about how long it envisions a project like this would take to come into fruition. An Embraer spokesperson shared that the company is two years into a three-year process evaluating the project.

If it was launched soon after the process is over then it could be available as early as late 2025 or early 2026. However, the spokesperson stated that there are still many variables to consider.

What are your thoughts on Embraer looking to launch a  new turboprop with Boeing? Let us know what you think of the plans in the comment section.

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Gerry S

Boeing already has a quite adequate turboprop with the C130J and C27J. Should not be too difficult to "modernise" this into a next generation powerplant. Rolls Royce would most likely be the vendor. The SAAB 2000 utilized a version of this engine. This was a high speed engine with low operating costs. Perfect airplane, but the world wanted jets then. Now we are back to designing an old bird which is new again. Either way, Rolls Royce seems to be the most practical choice.

Steven W

Neither the C130J or the C27J is produced by Boeing! The former comes from Lockheed Martin and the latter from Leonardo with some systems supplied by Lockheed.

William

The ATR72 is “gutless’ look more to the DeHavialand Q400 which is powerful, fast and climbs like a rocket. I have the impression the engines of the C130 would be too small. I also have the impression they are looking at an aircraft much bigger than the ATR72 say 100-150. The Kind of people they are talking to suggests they’re interested in a really big engine.

Frits Burghardt

“Fast and climbs like a rocket” are qualities not essential for a regional feeder airplane. Reasonable speed and low cost are. Apart from that I don’t think the new DHC company will be able to keep up with their big competitors in production capacity and development.

Armand2REP

I think Boeing has hemorrhaged enough money that it doesn’t need to waste it developing turboprops for a niche market.

Armand2REP

I think Boeing has hemorrhaged enough money that it doesn’t need to waste it developing turboprops for a niche market.

Frank

Boeing is looking to borrow $10 billion to get through the next 2 quarters. They’ve got no money to launch the 797, or their future small aircraft – let alone a turboprop. Who knows where they’re going to get the $4 billion for the Embraer tie-up. They’re probably happy the EU is taking a closer look at it and slowing things down…

Neil W

Boeing, of course will still be paying dividends to its shareholders using borrowed money.

Michael

The sad thing is it makes sense for them to still pay them. It’s clear their metric for success is based upon share performance. In the short term paying dividends would keep shareholders happy and offset the drop in value. Management who own shares would get an indirect bonus. Would it make long term financial sense? I doubt it, but that will be some else’s problem down the line. The worst part is I think on some level they know that like the banks in the financial crisis Boeing and too big to fail. Too many jobs are directly and… Read more »

Chuckles

About time! I fly an e175 and it is incredibly wasteful on flights shorter than like an hour and a half.. and we do plenty of those flights. The – 8 or the ATR would use half as much fuel and still get to the gate at the same time.. it’s crazy how much US Airlines waste because people want to fly on a “jet” Even though a turbo prop is also a “jet” anyway.

Richard Johnson

Boeing should really look into the E195’s to compete with the a220’s and maybe replacement for 737-7max with this acquisition. Not turboprop planes. I have avoided turboprops ever since I started flying.

Frank

The E2-195 isn’t really in the same market as the A220. The 195 is a regional jet and the A220 is a long and lean route aircraft, operated by mainline carriers. The A220 has effectively killed off the Max 7 & the A319 Neo.

David C.

The E195 does not compete directly against the A220-300 as it has a much shorter range. (4800Km vs 6100Km) Where the A220 can target the E195’s market with better fuel per passenger mile performance, the E195 gets left behind when airlines are looking for aircraft for long lean routes. Trust me, everyone at Embraer is looking to compete against the A220, and what they have going for them is fleet commonality and up front price. But beyond that, the A220 is less expensive to operate day-to-day and has a significantly longer range.

Anonymous

There is no truly economical to design and build a transport category air plane, but my guess is that the “could” leverage as much from the E-190 as possible, the same way the ERJ-145 took from the EMB-120, such as the cross-section. It would help save here and there, and as Gerry mentioned, using the same engine of the C-130J could also help bring costs down… a bit. This is not a niche market. There is a healthy market, if not, why is ATR doing quite well? Some 30 seaters (Saab 340, EMB-120 Brasilia, DASH-8 100/200) are really needing a… Read more »

William

The Airbus A400M Atlas has 4 × Europrop TP400-D6 turboprop, 8,200 kW (11,000 hp) each and has a Max takeoff weight: 141,000 kg (310,852 lb). A two engine aircraft based around this should scale to a nice A319-A320 size of about 72 tons. Expect about 20% fuel savings compared to the A430neo or B737 MAX 8. The “decarbonisation” problems and the possible expense of fuel may make such and aircraft very valuable. Hopefully it will ben an advanced aircraft with fly by wire, flight envelop protection like the E2s. The ATR72 only had servo spring tabs which is why the… Read more »

Roy Ducker

Never heard of an A430neo,as Airbus launched a new aircraft no one’s heard of?.

Gerry S

Obviously an unintentional mis-key.

High Mile Club

Flew in a Dash 8 one time, and that was it for me when it came to flying in turboprops commercial wise. People complain about jet engines making so much noise, but listening to that prop fan turning for over an hour will drain anyone…

Marcio

I’m for it, and for everything that adds substance in the quest for efficiency that in the end can revert or mitigate harming the environment.

Gerry S

You ought to try being in a C130 for six straight hours. And that is with airplugs.

Kai smith

Im just surprised they didnt make another turboprop earlier